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Ebby is diagnosed with Blasto!
« on: July 01, 2011, 08:42:21 PM »

Hello everybody,

my name is Severine and I moved 4,5 years ago from Germany to Canada. Last year Halloween I found a dog on the highway and the owners didn`t want her anymore so we kept her.
Two month ago she started to get sick and they finally figured out ( 2 weeks ago) that she has Blasto. She is now on Sporanox 100mg twice a day, her eyes were involved and her Lymphknots, she was also limping. This is all increasing, thats what I think but I am not sure about her eyes. We are running out of money, so I can`t take her to the vet every week, plus we have to keep her on the medication at least 4 month. How long do I have to waitÉ She is on the medication now for 8 days and the swelling went down. Her appetite is totaly gone and she only eats pudding and Hotdogs.
I am very thankfull for any comments and help.
Thanks a lot
Severine and Ebby
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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2011, 11:20:45 PM »

Hi Severine!
  So sorry to hear about Ebby!
     There is SO much info on this forum! Where are you located in Canada? What kind of dog is she? She might need to be on meds a lot longer than 4 months and she will get worse before she gets better.
 Make sure to feed fat with meds every time. Make sure she keeps eating no matter what. Steak, eggs, salami, liver sausage, anything at all they might eat.
  Keep her on the meds until doc agrees she is ok or it might come back full force! My e mail is cathyhuitikka@hotmail.com
We are in a real "hot spot for blasto" here in northwest Ontario.  Both my dogs have had it and one of them has had it twice even. Read my story below.
   Please keep us updated on how Ebby is doing!

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Re: Ebby is diagnosed with Blasto!
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2011, 12:09:14 PM »

hi seberine,
sorry ebby is sick with blasto. if you check the charlie has blasto postings i detail my drug costs going down from over $300 a month for sporanox to $50 for powdered itra. i definately needed to find the balance between helping my dog as much as i could with staying financially afloat in this process. the jury is out ongoing on whether the generic is as effective as the brand name re drugs.
let your animal eat whatever it will eat, and read back on postings to see what worked for others if ebby gets tired of her particular preferences.
many animals make good recoveries from this (seemingly) devastating and traumatic disease, so hang on in there with your puppy.
good luck.
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Re: Ebby is diagnosed with Blasto!
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2011, 06:34:44 PM »

Thank you so much, I just got off work and I don't know if her eyes will lose the sight. She ate some dogfood with catfood, dryfood, she refused miost food. she gets liversausage with everything , specially the meds. I am trying to get generics from germany, as we cannot afford 300 a month plus vetbill over the next months ;o(
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Re: Ebby is diagnosed with Blasto!
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2011, 08:04:06 PM »

sounds like the eating is going not too badly. my huskie cross went blind, but has adapted pretty well. he almost seems able to feel his way around, and is managing pretty well even on the narrower trails now, and ability to socialise with other animals without sight is improving.
i was looking at getting the meds from US, but aparantly they can hook up at the border. some of the threads discuss less expensive suppliers in canada, though i'm assuming you'd still need a prescription from your vet.
i stretched out my vet visits a fair bit, as it seems that it's you, the drugs and your dog that do the lions share of the healing, though i did take him in when i was worried. hopefully your vet can be sensitive to the financial aspect, and advice accordingly.
all the best to you and hound
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Re: Ebby is diagnosed with Blasto!
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2011, 10:34:01 PM »

The really bad thing is, that we got totally flooded and had to move in a townhouse, the whole acreage plus farmhouse is gone and I am now bound to the friggin vet in town, they have no clue of anything and have horrorble prizes.....just for the bloodtest, urintest and fluid from the lymphknotes I had to pay 700 dollars. I will switch to a different vet soon, far out but hopefully worth it and start all over again. I have a sporanox prescr. from the vet for 2 month BUT I have a lovely physician and he gave me a prescription under my sisters name (who visited from germany last week) who took it to germany and gets the generic for Ebby, probably even under her privat health insurance, so we don't have to pay at all.....keep your fingers crossed that that will work.
Ebby spent the evening with my boyfriend in the smingchair and even ate most of her food , plus pizza ;o) But her eyes still seem to popp out of her head, I know I am too impatient and it will take a long, long time, until she will be better.
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Re: Ebby is diagnosed with Blasto!
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2011, 12:27:59 AM »

yes, the look of the eyes is a bit distressing, with my guy that went down eventually, so his eyes now don't look so different than before (though they don't work). i think you do have to be careful though, of really excessive swelling, which could indicate infection. generally the eyes are left in these days, unless there are major infection problems, but they can also inject the eye to deal with infection.
my understanding is a certain amount of swelling is ok, but too much should be checked out (hard to tell what is too much, i know).
sorry you've had so much bad stuff hit you recently, but good news about free drugs (even better than cheap drugs), and that your puppy is eating well.
in spite of what people say DRUGS ARE THE ANSWER! just kidding (i think?)
hope things continue on an upward trend for the two and four legged beings in your tribe.
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Re: Ebby is diagnosed with Blasto!
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2011, 11:35:36 PM »

I'm so sorry to hear about Ebby.  Its a long, hard road.  And they do tend to get worse before better.  Usually, you will start to see a slight improvement in 10 days to two weeks.  But its a long way after that.  Considering your Ebby has eye involvement, I would maybe talk to your vet about switching to Fluconazole when you run out of Spornax.  Not only is it A LOT CHEAPER, but Fluconazole crosses both the blood/eye and blood/brain barrier whereas Spornax doesn't (or not much of it does).  You can search for IZZY on the forum and follow his case.  He did great on Fluconazole with just about the same symptoms (plus lung involvement) as your Ebby.  A lot of dogs end up having to have the infected eyes removed.  The important thing is that the Blasto doesn't go from the eye to the CNS. If the Blasto hits the CNS its just about over.  I don't think you should need to have to worry about a whole lot of vet visits.  Has your vet done and antigen test to see what levels he is at?  I think, initially, you have to really watch the eye.  Watch for any swelling.  Once Ebby is stable and you see the eye is improving slightly, your vet should be able to just give you refills on your Rx and run another Mira Vista antigen test in 3 months.  The antigen test (pee test is best) is $70.00 directly through Mira Visa Labs.  As for the meds, is well into her 7th month and last month was the first time we got back actual numbers from Mira Vista on her antigen test.  She is still above a ten.  So we have a ways to go yet. 

I wish you and Ebby the very best.  This forum is an awesome place to find information, there is tons of knowledge on here.  Please let us know if you need anything or have any questions.  I'll be sending you prayers.
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Re: Ebby is diagnosed with Blasto!
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2011, 11:46:04 PM »

Spornax in the States is VERY expensive.  I order from Canada Drugs and ships out from either England or Thailand.  Last time I think I paid $160.00 for 45 caps.  Its good that you started on the Spornax but if Ebby doens't have much lung involvement, I would talk to your vet about Fluconazole.  It will cost you about $40.00 a month.  Make sure you give the Spornax with a fat.  This is ESPECIALLY important if you decide to switch to a powdered compounded Itra because it isn't bioavailable (absorbable) without a fat.  Also, keep it in an opaque bottle out of direct light.  Compounded Itra is also unstable and light will degrade it quickly.

Please keep us up to date on how Ebby is doing.
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Re: Ebby is diagnosed with Blasto!
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2011, 12:31:13 AM »

If Ebbys eye is swelling and buldging out that is not a good sign.  You really should at a minimum call your vet.  The eye may need to be removed before the Blasto gets to the CNS.  Talk to your vet about Fluconazole.
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Re: Ebby is diagnosed with Blasto!
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2011, 12:23:45 PM »

Thank you so much for all the help and support it helps so much. I will try to get a hold of the vet who did the test but he reacted kind of pissy last time I phoned him and that is why I would like to switch. The vets in our area are really not the greatest. Ebby doesn't want to take the pills at all anymore, so I have to stuff them in her throat and keep her mouth shut until she swallowed. that is so hard.
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Re: Ebby is diagnosed with Blasto!
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2011, 12:34:11 PM »

Wont she take her food even if you ball it up with bacon or liver sausage?

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Re: Ebby is diagnosed with Blasto!
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2011, 07:09:31 PM »

no not anymore, no liversausages, no bacon, probably because she knows, if it is coming from me, there is a pill in and she won't eat for me....I am the mean one now. sometimes she eats a little bit for my husband, but I am not gonna risk that and then she will stop eating for him too, so I will remain the mean one ;o(
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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2011, 09:37:18 AM »

you'll have the odd major hump day, luckily not too often in the process. at times i was force feeding with a large syringe and watered down hill's prescription diet, sometimes with the meds broken into the food, though it was a worry getting the majority of it into the dog, at other times, furniture flying, getting the meds down the throat. it's good that you can have a good cop bad cop situation. there was only one bad cop in the household here. difficult when you're trying to build trust with a recently blinded dog.
i kept a variety of cheap (and some not so) yellow package "no name" people and dog food around, and also experimented with a variety of soft dog treats that i could put the meds in (doggy pepperoni was good for a time). we had to work at it ongoing. i wouldn't get too concerned if the animal drops weight and won't take in too much. my vet's blastoed huskie cross would only take in a small can of cat food daily, enough to sustain the animal and work with the meds. it can be frustrating when the animal seems bound and determined to thwart all efforts to ensure it's survival. if you've spent any time travelling developing world or in canada's very own state sanctioned third world situation, on some reservations, dogs can get very skinny and still survive. it is a judgement call and balancing act, however. you're probably all doing a bloody great job, (though it's a very difficult one, so it doesn't always feel that way).
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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2011, 10:57:15 AM »

the last comment is without words......thank you so much, was just good to read.
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